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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby mcha9797 on Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:51 pm

I'm no expert, but I thought 27's were the only lenses used in Ruleta's.
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby agaessco on Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:13 pm

mcha9797 wrote:I'm no expert, but I thought 27's were the only lenses used in Ruleta's.


That's what I thought too but I doubt Ruleta would have made Ruleta marked lenses for some other company :grin: Did Ruleta make signals for places other than for NY like Essco made signals for places other than Chicago? I'm the signal newbie who doesn't understand all I know about this stuff.
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby Mike80 on Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:13 pm

That Ruleta lens was made by Houzex Glass.

My Ruleta came with a mix of lenses:
4 Kopp 27
1 Kopp 66
1 Kopp 4627
1 Houzex E390
1 Corning Type H

I'm guessing Ruleta used either the Kopp 27 or Houzex E390, but then as the lenses were broken in the signal on the street, they were replaced with other types. Probably explains why mine has such a mix of lenses. Maybe someone knows the years the Kopp 27 and Houzex E390 lenses were produced?
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby jab8356 on Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:30 pm

What does a Corning type H lens look like?
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby Mike80 on Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:38 pm

jab8356 wrote:What does a Corning type H lens look like?

Here is a thread that shows the Corning Type H...
http://forums.signaltraffic.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7588
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby 2070 on Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:42 pm

Mike80 wrote:
jab8356 wrote:What does a Corning type H lens look like?

Here is a thread that shows the Corning Type H...
http://forums.signaltraffic.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7588


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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby agaessco on Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:32 pm

Mike80 wrote:That Ruleta lens was made by Houzex Glass.

My Ruleta came with a mix of lenses:
4 Kopp 27
1 Kopp 66
1 Kopp 4627
1 Houzex E390
1 Corning Type H

I'm guessing Ruleta used either the Kopp 27 or Houzex E390, but then as the lenses were broken in the signal on the street, they were replaced with other types. Probably explains why mine has such a mix of lenses. Maybe someone knows the years the Kopp 27 and Houzex E390 lenses were produced?


The Ruleta lens I have is also marked Houzex and E 390 at the bottom. I assume yours is marked Ruleta at the top?
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby Mike80 on Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:50 pm

agaessco wrote:The Ruleta lens I have is also marked Houzex and E 390 at the bottom. I assume yours is marked Ruleta at the top?

Yes, Ruleta on the top and Houzex on the bottom :good:
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby EdT. on Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:54 pm

As Mike has pointed out, that is a Houzex and is absolutely Ruleta-correct. To the best of my knowledge, it pre-dates Kopp27s.

agaessco wrote:Did Ruleta make signals for places other than for NY like Essco made signals for places other than Chicago? I'm the signal newbie who doesn't understand all I know about this stuff.

Once again, to the best of my knowledge, Ruleta only made sigs for NYC (all five boroughs). Horni (who later acquired the molds and produced a similar version) wasn't quite as particular. :roll:
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby agaessco on Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:08 am

DUH! I think it goes without saying that when you're Horni, you're never quite as particular!
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