GE "Solid Door" Novalux Pick-A-light 8-6-11

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Re: GE "Solid Door" Novalux Pick-A-light 8-6-11

Postby EdT. on Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:09 pm

Great stuff. :thumbsup: Just some random bits of info that might be of help (or confusion):

Fred wrote:Considering GE first got into the traffic light business when they purchased Garrett Morgan's patent, presumably in late 1924/25. http://www.wired.com/science/discoverie ... ntech_1120 We see little or no sign of GE's marketing until around 1928.

I'm afraid it's not that cut and dry - there is some doubt as to whether GE ever actually purchased Mr. Morgan's patent... :shock:

And the pic of that Halvorson in the Wired article is from 1924 in Schenectady. Cromwell Halvorson was working for GE when he filed for that signal's patent in 1925. :scratch:

Additionally, there's some link between GE and Ruleta in the mid 20s. Cast Novalux visors are identical to Ruleta cast visors and the doors are strikingly similar. And some early Ruleta adjustables used GE style cereal bowl reflectors and mounts.
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Re: GE "Solid Door" Novalux Pick-A-light 8-6-11

Postby Magnetboy on Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:23 am

EdT. wrote:Additionally, there's some link between GE and Ruleta in the mid 20s. Cast Novalux visors are identical to Ruleta cast visors and the doors are strikingly similar. And some early Ruleta adjustables used GE style cereal bowl reflectors and mounts.


And lets not forget about Johnson. Just where does that signal fit in all of this? My Johnson has the same body, visors and finial as the Ruleta and the GE cereal bowl reflectors and socket assembly.

NOTE TO :Fred: The reflectors in that GE 3 door you pictured earlier were black on the back. I removed those reflectors and placed the 3 silver ones in it temporarily. The black ones were looking a bit shabby, but the silver ones are NOS so I changed them out for a while.
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Re: GE "Solid Door" Novalux Pick-A-light 8-6-11

Postby Crunge98 on Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:40 am

LarryC39 wrote:Based on the reflectors, I'd say it came after the "multiple-door single-high-hinge GE" solidbody and before/with the multiple door, normal hinge GE.

That wouldnt make sense? Daves light has even different reflectors in it
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Re: GE "Solid Door" Novalux Pick-A-light 8-6-11

Postby Fred on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:05 am

I just looked and it's not up at the moment, but keep an eye out on the bay. There is a 1923 ad with that Halvorson / GE in it. The one Dave Hahn has has GE on the lenses.

EdT. wrote:
Additionally, there's some link between GE and Ruleta in the mid 20s. Cast Novalux visors are identical to Ruleta cast visors and the doors are strikingly similar. And some early Ruleta adjustables used GE style cereal bowl reflectors and mounts.


Now we're rollin'. :thumbsup: I look at you more as the authority on the Ruleta line. Agreed, the visors are Identical and in fact interchangeable. The socket end/side of the early Ruleta reflectors are identical to the cereal bowl reflectors in respect that it's molded one piece glass. Later (Horni maybe) where we find the cone/bowl shaped reflector that they inserted the aluminum piece which creates the flare. Those similarities I do see.

GE/Ruleta in the 20's, yet we know the Ruleta is the predecessor to Horni, Identical other than the name on the light. (And of course we have MB sticking his Jonson in there every chance he gets. :hurl: ) But when did GE take over Horni? Or did GE split off that line (molds) and Horni was formed (that doesn't sound just right. :blush: ) I see GE's line of lights clearly in '41 as do I see Horni's full line. And on that note... GE also call the (groveback-long grove.. or what you choose to call them) a Novalux as well in their advertisements. :scratch:
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Re: GE "Solid Door" Novalux Pick-A-light 8-6-11

Postby Crunge98 on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:25 pm

Horni was out at the same time as Ruleta. Horni was around in the mid 20's until the mid 40's when Marb bought them out. GE was a dealer for AGA for a few years in the 20's and the GE ads show an AGA. Maybe GE was making the parts for ruleta. After ruleta started taking off they started making there own parts.
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Re: GE "Solid Door" Novalux Pick-A-light 8-6-11

Postby signalstand on Wed May 16, 2012 11:42 am

Now that I have my hands on 2 of these ;) I am curious as to if anyone has any new information on the origin of these. Both of these have the 1A in them but one has cloth wiring and the other has the plastic shielding. Terminal blocks look identical. I picked both of these up at the same time so it would seem logical that both of these twins have been running together for a while. I am 100% certian that the poly Eagles are not original :yes:
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I also notice that the molds are not 100% identical at the mounting locations...
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so there must have been more than one mold patterned.

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