mis-wired doghouse

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Re: mis-wired doghouse

Postby EPAC-EPIC-MARC on Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:55 am

2070 wrote:Not in the picture.........

Can not trouble shoot what I can not see.

EPAC-EPIC-MARC wrote:Not in this case. Overlaps A,B,C and D are the flashing yellow arrow circuits for each approach. Set up in the controller overlap screen you choose which phase the overlap operates permissive and which phase operates protected. The protected phases are your standard left turn phases 1 3 5 and 7.

The green arrow for the doghouse is the green output on phases 1 3 5 or 7.. Same as the the crossing street left turn green arrows. The yellow arrow on the doghouse is the yellow output on phases 1 3 5 or 7

The red arrow, solid yellow arrow, and flashing yellow arrow are outputted on the overlap channels as red yellow and flashing green. In the cabinet is switchpacks 13 thru 16.


So, then the doghouse are wired correctly (Green and SOLID Yellow arrows) and it is a program problem that will never be corrected!!! :hello:

The right turn doghouse arrows need to be overlaps "E", "F" "G" and "H" to work correctly.


The right turn arrows are normally tied to the left turn protected movement switch packs. Which in a standard 8 phase cabinet are switches 1,3,5,7 for each approach. Red on those switches are not used, yellow is for right turn doghouse only, green is for both right turn doghouse and cross street left turn 4-section FYA head

I think I know the problem now. The yellow arrow is tied into the THRU phase for the cross street. The setup looks to lead with a left turn green arrow, and green ball all on for one direction (with the right turn green arrow on the doghouse). When the cross street left turn switches to solid yellow the doghouse goes dark because the yellow right turn arrow is wired to the cross street yellow thru switchpack, not the proper odd-numbered protected turn movement switch pack. At the end of the cycle when the thru signals turn yellow the arrow comes back on.

That would make more sense actually :Wink2:
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Re: mis-wired doghouse

Postby jab8356 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:11 am

EPAC-EPIC-MARC wrote:Let us know if it gets fixed...knowing Macomb County....it will get looked at in about 6 months, and then another 6 months to fix it. :Phil:


Got a response...

Mr. Bock,

I have forwarded your email to our Traffic Engineer for his review and to remedy the situation. Thank you for contacting us with your concerns.

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Re: mis-wired doghouse

Postby jab8356 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:04 pm

...and another...

Mr. Bock,

This issue has been resolved. Again, thank you for contacting us with your concerns.



Less than 24 hours...pretty good!

I think maybe I will take a ride over there this evening and see for sure.
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Re: mis-wired doghouse

Postby notMUTCDcompliant on Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:23 pm

Must have been programming, they remotely accessed the box and uploaded the fix (although that sounds risky!) or the guy just marked at as done!
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Re: mis-wired doghouse

Postby coyttl on Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:16 pm

notMUTCDcompliant wrote:Must have been programming, they remotely accessed the box and uploaded the fox (although that sounds risky!) or the guy just marked at as done!

Why?
Was that not enough time to get in a car and drive over there to open the cabinet?

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Re: mis-wired doghouse

Postby EPAC-EPIC-MARC on Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:18 pm

I can't see how this would be a programming issue. Definitely sounded like a wiring problem at the cabinet.

In any case its cool they got it fixed so fast. I wonder if you were the only one that notified them.
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Re: mis-wired doghouse

Postby notMUTCDcompliant on Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:22 pm

Most gov workers aren't always swift about issues that others point out to them... some of them are (most of them are members here!)
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Re: mis-wired doghouse

Postby jab8356 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:31 pm

EPAC-EPIC-MARC wrote:I wonder if you were the only one that notified them.


Since they seemed to get right on it, I would say I was probably the only one, otherwise it would have been fixed quickly when someone else reported it earlier.
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Re: mis-wired doghouse

Postby jab8356 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:58 pm

I just checked and it is fixed!
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Re: mis-wired doghouse

Postby 2070 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:06 pm

So what happens when the Left Turn or Right turn green or yellow arrows burn out?

EPAC-EPIC-MARC wrote:The right turn arrows are normally tied to the left turn protected movement switch packs. Which in a standard 8 phase cabinet are switches 1,3,5,7 for each approach.
Well what do you know. If I put my name here, I do not have to sign it everytime.

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