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Re: LED Savings...Wow

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:07 am
by pyth
3Mfanatic wrote:The benefits extend beyond power savings, too as we all know.

> Reduced emergency call-outs for red failure.
> Unlike an incandescent bulb, LEDs don't have a single point of failure like the filament of a bulb and tend to dim before they fail and though a complete and catastrophic LED failure can and does happen, I believe it to be extraordinarily rare. I think I've called in maybe two failed LEDs in the last two years or so and probably 95% of Washington County's first-round green Dialight balls (installed late 2001) are still going strong. They aren't as bright as they once were but they still get the job done.
> Possible safety benefit in brighter indication and the 'pop' of the instant on is more likely to get the attention of a distracted motorist.

weatherdan882002 wrote:All of this makes me wonder just how much major cities like NYC have saved by doing LED conversions...


Honestly I'd think cities like Los Angeles probably saw greater cost savings because a majority of the signals there are 12" and those require a higher-wattage bulb than an 8" indication. Correct me if I'm wrong, New Yorkers but aren't most NYC signals still 8"?


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Don't get me wrong, the savings and all of that are neat, but they seem to have a greater benefit to southern states than northern ones.

Re: LED Savings...Wow

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:44 pm
by steven1981
3Mfanatic wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, New Yorkers but aren't most NYC signals still 8"?


Yes, the city of New York still has many 8" traffic signals in use, and D.O.T. continues to install them as well.
Though it seems some major thoroughfares there were recently converted from 8" to 12" traffic signals, due to the speed limit on some of them, which typically falls between 35 and 40 M.P.H.

I noticed this change in the borough of Staten Island a while back when I was there, which was on one segment of Richmond Avenue. 35 and 40 M.P.H. speed limit zones on this portion, and most signalized intersections used 8" traffic signals for over 30 years. The new 12" heads now control this portion, but the 8" traffic signals for the cross streets were untouched.

Re: LED Savings...Wow

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:33 pm
by weatherdan882002
Well, even though cities are charged a flat rate, there's no doubt it still saves a ton of demand on the electrical grid.

pyth wrote:Image

Don't get me wrong, the savings and all of that are neat, but they seem to have a greater benefit to southern states than northern ones.

I actually don't see very often up here. I'm sure :Phil: has, but I've only seen it once or twice (and it only happens a few times per year, if that), so I consider it a benefit all around.

Re: LED Savings...Wow

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:15 pm
by sorphin
To give some perspective, with every possible indication on, on my setup (with all LEDs), plus the mmu + the controller, i draw about 2A. and I have 12 lights (including peds).

Re: LED Savings...Wow

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:26 pm
by NxtPhs
In my city, the savings equate to about $3,000,000 per year after switching to LED indications. :grin:

Re: LED Savings...Wow

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:44 am
by Econo101
pyth wrote:
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Don't get me wrong, the savings and all of that are neat, but they seem to have a greater benefit to southern states than northern ones.


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Re: LED Savings...Wow

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:19 pm
by pyth
Econo101 wrote:
pyth wrote:
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Don't get me wrong, the savings and all of that are neat, but they seem to have a greater benefit to southern states than northern ones.




These definitely need to be more known about, I don't think I've ever seen any of these on the field or in pictures from the field before.