Introductory Message and Volunteer Info

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Introductory Message and Volunteer Info

Postby LarryC39 on Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:41 pm

It's been a while since I've officially became Cap'n Wiki (although it was more of a Shanghaiing :jerry: before I came to my senses), so I should say a few words at some point. This was truly my intent when I opened the doors on The Signal Saloon. There's so much not documented or passing data that gets lost when we gain/lose people/archives from the clubs. I was hoping to give a lot of documentation and detail to each of the couple (ha ha) signals I was going to collect. What's inside. What's outside. What works. What fails. Yes, there's a lot of nice websites out there with great pieces, photos, and style but they didn't go far beyond the lens in most cases.

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Volunteers. What does it involve? First and foremost, collecting, or even just providing Hard Data. Informal word from a SFC member is a start, the commentaries and personal accounts from the industry are much better (IE the account by "Ray" from his times at Econolite and experiences with Winko-Matic on the Winko Wiki page. Catalogs, vintage advertisements, brochures, manuals, and photographs are even better. If you can't, or just don't want to be involved with the page creation providing source data in the formats previously mentioned is simple for those who posses but half the work for those who need to seek out. Even if it's just a dated photograph of Grandma in front of the fire station next to a Horni beacon that could form a better timeline for when signal X was around.

Second is organizing and cataloging this data before uploading it to the Wiki. There's going to be a lot of tedium, duplicate entries, and conflicting sources. I'm not pretending this is the easy part. It's probably the toughest. An inane attention to detail is a must. It'd be much better if the people doing the research also were familiar with that type of signal hardware, but that's just not realistic for most cases. My favorite example the Deco 8" singleface. It looks simple but then you have Type D, Type DT. Early and Late D reflector frames. Aluminum and Glass DT reflectors. At least five types of endplates. All that will eventually be captured. It might start out for now as the Type D and Type DT signals but as more detail is accumulated it will grow to include all these kinds of nuances.

Third (two and a half) is maintaining dates. Whenever Possible the dates should be noted for each item, at least the earliest and latest recorded dates. Eventually we will create a master signal timeline off this kind of data and signals could be identified down to only a few years based on their hardware configuration.

Fourth is Attributions. I have not been stringent myself on much of this data either, but we're all trying to straighten up. Just like your high school research paper, I don't care if "John" says there's no Darley's equipped with blue lenses, we need to see a reference to the catalog, advertisement, or data source that said "no blue lenses." Lest I flush away good information here, at this stage, please provide that kind of information - the old "everyone knows that in 1947..." stories, but do note it as such with disqualifiers as [opinion] [uncited] [assumed] in the body text containing unsubstantiated data. A lot of the stuff will probably never be citable and we have to make those inferences now and correct them when countered. Tokheim/Signaphore is an example - We've yet to locate papers linking them together but we know when Signaphore disappeared from industry publications, when Tokheim got into the market and started using the same name, and have patents in that timeframe attributed to each of those companies signed by the same head engineer.
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Re: Introductory Message and Volunteer Info

Postby EdT. on Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:00 am

Larry, once more I'd like to thank you for shouldering the wiki mantle with nary a complaint. You've been doing a bang up job and I see you have things well in hand.

The entire signal wiki project is for all of our benefit, so please, help out if you can. In order to ensure that work isn't duplicated, try to coordinate with Larry to see what it is he needs or in what format (and where) to submit any info.

Larry, seeing as there's such a large body of work to be done, perhaps we can focus on certain subjects for each month? For example, maybe Jan2009 could be Tokheim month? In addition to focusing on fleshing out the Tokheim wiki entry, we could have Tokheim parties, make Tokheim crafts and sing Tokheim songs. Just an idea. I've got lots of them. In fact, my wife often says I'm full of ideas. Or full of something, I forget her exact wording... :scratch:
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Re: Introductory Message and Volunteer Info

Postby SirMarbelot on Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:43 pm

I serously like the idea of focusing on individual subjects for a month at a time. We could probably get a lot done that way.
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Re: Introductory Message and Volunteer Info

Postby blecha67 on Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:38 am

Hi, is there a focus for the month of December, or January. If I missed the post sorry. I would like to contribute when at all possible, it is winter and I can not get to a lot of my signals that are in my garage, but soon will be able to, right now there is massive ice hail and snow coming down and have already lost power more that once today. Well anyway let me know.
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Re: Introductory Message and Volunteer Info

Postby EdT. on Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:21 pm

That's an excellent question Jim. Nothing for December, but now would be the time to announce anything for Jan09.

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BTW, I totally missed this thread (viewtopic.php?f=16&t=613) where you mentioned the GE page. :shock: Wow!! :hello: My hat's off to you Cap'n Wiki!! :thumbsup:
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Re: Introductory Message and Volunteer Info

Postby SirMarbelot on Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:00 pm

I'm game for this too. Whatever I have, I will contribute.
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