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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby SirMarbelot on Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:17 am

mcha9797 wrote:So your lenses say Kopp NO. 27 or Kopp #27, I've been told the #27's are older.


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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby mcha9797 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:30 am

SirMarbelot wrote:
mcha9797 wrote:So your lenses say Kopp NO. 27 or Kopp #27, I've been told the #27's are older.


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At least you finally got them out!!

I had good luck removing frozen screws in my Eagle doors, by inserting the screwdriver blade in the screw and smacking it several times with a hammer. Make sure your on a solid surface and not stressing any of the hinges when you do the hammering.
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby jab8356 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:34 am

mcha9797 wrote:I had good luck removing frozen screws in my Eagle doors, by inserting the screwdriver blade in the screw and smacking it several times with a hammer.


I tried this method before I learned about using heat. It cost me a DT reflector. :bye:
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby mcha9797 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:40 am

jab8356 wrote:
mcha9797 wrote:I had good luck removing frozen screws in my Eagle doors, by inserting the screwdriver blade in the screw and smacking it several times with a hammer.


I tried this method before I learned about using heat. It cost me a DT reflector. :bye:


NO GLASS in the light, I thought that was a given.
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby Mike80 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:50 am

SirMarbelot wrote:
mcha9797 wrote:So your lenses say Kopp NO. 27 or Kopp #27, I've been told the #27's are older.


NO. 27
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I haven't seen the #27, but I have one style that says NO. 27 and the other NO 27 (with and without the period). The font style is slightly different between the two.
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby jab8356 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:51 am

mcha9797 wrote:
jab8356 wrote:
mcha9797 wrote:I had good luck removing frozen screws in my Eagle doors, by inserting the screwdriver blade in the screw and smacking it several times with a hammer.


I tried this method before I learned about using heat. It cost me a DT reflector. :bye:


NO GLASS in the light, I thought that was a given.


I was still learning. It was my 5th light at the time.
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby agaessco on Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:59 am

SirMarbelot wrote:
agaessco wrote:And why is it that the Ruletas you find have Kopp 27s and not Ruleta lenses? Are all your reflectors in your Ruleta the presumably older variety that are all glass or the ones with metal - presumably aluminum - inserts around the socket area?


I believe I may have a "last generation" version of this signal. The reflectors have the metal rings, the wires are plastic coated, the Kopp 27 lenses are the later kind, and no manufacturer name is stamped or embossed anywhere. I guess it's from the mid-late 40s.


I have a "parts" Horni beacon that has been out of sight/mind for a while. I just checked and it appears to have the same reflectors as your later vintage Ruleta - metal inserts that may not be aluminum because they appear rusty -but I do have 2 reflectors that look like the rings are aluminum. The ones that are all glass have a black back, while the ones with metal rings have a silver back. Does anyone know for sure if Ruleta and Horni reflectors are interchangeable?
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby EdT. on Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:09 am

3liteguy wrote:Holophane had a shot at it too:

Ya, but that's a freakishly early version... :P

Are all the lenses in that early one Holophanes? :drool:
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby 3liteguy on Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:42 pm

I don't know as six of the eight are missing. The other two are there because they were protected by their cast aluminum nipple doors. Great protection if you ask me. (Fashion tip ladies!)
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Re: Ruleta re-paint dilemma.. strip the SOB or just slap on

Postby agaessco on Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:44 pm

I finally found this thread again after I found a Ruleta lens. Anyway, when I asked earlier about why Kopp 27s marked lenses and not Ruleta marked lenses were used in Ruleta signals, I thought I had a Ruleta lens but I couldn't find it, so I thought I must be thinking of Horni marked lenses. Today though, I found the lens pictured below and since I'm missing a green in a Ruleta, is there any reason from a "purist" standpoint not to use it, other than the fact it doesn't match the Kopp 27s?
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