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My area of NJ is mostly 16" w/ LED ountdowns

I happened to look closer and found that these ped signals I thought had countdowns actually don't:
https://www.google.com/maps?q=Avon+St+% ... 6,,2,-0.79
Those 10 are the only LED ped signals, besides the 2 incandescent ones, that don't have countdowns in the bottom section.

Found that these 4 16" ped signals are incandescent:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=darden+t ... 2,,2,-2.59

Hey guys,
I took a video of the only LED ped signals that don't have a countdown. And whenever the walk sign came up for the side streets, the controller made a loud beep, and stopped when the hand started to flash. Knowing nothing about controllers, why did it do that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFa0kpQ-Svg

Another question - those signals are for crossing that side street, and, like most others in this area, the flashing phase finishes long before the thru signal turn red. So when the solid hand comes up, nothing has changed for the vehicular traffic. I get that it gives right-turners an actual opportunity, but it is annoying because it's a long cycle, and it leads people to ignore it and cross anyway. Is that normal for a side street crossing? (The main st crossing goes until the thru signals turn yellow)

Thanks!

With regards to your first question, there is likely a small device attached to those pedestrian signals, in which makes that sound. It is typically used to aid pedestrians that are blind. Others that are in use sometimes produce a chirp or human command.

steven1981 wrote:With regards to your first question, there is likely a small device attached to those pedestrian signals, in which makes that sound. It is typically used to aid pedestrians that are blind. Others that are in use sometimes produce a chirp or a human command.

I thought so too, but I didn't see any of those attachments. I thought the sound was coming from here, and only for the side street crossing. The only thing to help blind crossing I know of around here are special talking buttons, and this intersection did not have them. Talking button video

signal-in-the-box wrote:The only thing to help blind crossing I know of around here are special talking buttons, and this intersection did not have them. Talking button video

Before your edit, you had two pictures -
The first was a Polara EZ Navigator modem, the non-talking one was a Poara Bulldog.

Brockton now has quite a variety of pedestrian crossing signals.

As long as I can remember, it was mostly a mix of 9" dual-square incandescent worded lens, 12" dual-square incandescent worded lens, and 12" single-square fiber-optic worded signals.
We didn't start seeing the symbols in Brockton until starting in 1997 when a few of the intersections were upgraded/redesigned. Back then they would use 12" dual-square incandescent signals with the words. One intersection owned by the state still has them.

In 2003, as part of the big citywide LED traffic light upgrade, the pedestrian traffic signals owned by the city were also upgraded as part of this, most of them with GE modules. The 9" signals mostly had a full LED man on top, and an outlined CANADIAN man symbol on bottom (I imagine back then, GE didn't make a 9-inch American-style walk LED module.) Dual-square 12" signals would have a filled LED standalone hand on top, and an outlined man symbol on bottom, made out of a modified hand/man LED module with just the bulbs for the man symbol installed. Single 12" signals simply had an outlined LED hand/man module installed.

For most new installations they now go with the 12" single-square setup. GE is still common, both in outlined and filled variations, and a few as incandescent-look GT1 signals. There are also some Dialight signals (mostly common only at full Dialight signal setups, post-2005 installations typically with the later filled hand/man modules), a few are Duralight and maybe Leotek, and there are some outlined-symbol ones that are either ActOne or Tassimco.

Brockton did not get 16" signals until late 2011/early 2012 when one intersection near my house was redesigned and had a full signal upgrade. They installed GE GT1 incandescent-look countdown pedestrian signals as part of this, and were the first pedestrian countdown signals in Brockton.


We still have one intersection owned by the state with fiber-optic worded signals, but the "DONT WALK" part is now lit by an LED bulb in each signal, as a cheaper method for converting the signals to LED (and a good idea if you ask me!)


There are also four state-owned intersections still with worded 12" dual-square incandescent signals...

Three of the intersections will probably have them gone after this summer, because they plan to do some signal upgrades, and I was told that they will be replacing these with LED countdown signals as part of this. (These intersections REALLY needed them, too!)

We mainly have these: