steven1981 wrote:mcorivervsaf wrote:Just giving you a heads-up, be careful how you mount that lens into the Winko-Matic Signal, I made the mistake of putting it in too tight, and it developed a few stress cracks at the corners. I seldom use mine in my WM ped signal, because of that, it's more of a loose fit in the G.T.E. P-6 signal.
José, it is somewhat of a tight fit in the actual housing itself. Originally, I wanted to improvise (as far as a gasket is concerned), so I thought 8" rubber gaskets for traffic signals would be ideal, since I had some at hand. Though I realized I had the original gasket that was attached to the original "DONT WALK" and "WALK" lens of the pedestrian signal, and I used that one in particular instead. I did notice that, when I first received it, there were some tiny cracks on one side of the insert, so it already has been somewhat damaged. Though, with that said, everything is still intact and fine. I'll definitely take good care of it. :-)
I'm not necessarily surprised by your comment, since it seems that everything (when placed inside) is frankly a tight fit (just based on what I have worked on). The reflector assembly and lens were a b*** to remove, simply because of that reason. With regards to the reflector assembly, there seems to be an extra gasket of some sort that surrounds the entire housing, which provides a tight fit, not a loose fit. I'm sure workers encountered a similar issue when they installed these in the Winko-Matic housings in the early 2000s.
I am not sure if the G.T.E. P-6 housing shares the same design and features I explained above; however, I was interested in one. Though, as you already know, G.T.E. discontinued the first generation of the P-6 model a couple of years ago. The second generation lacks the
"cap" on the back of the housing, and, overall, it wouldn't be ideal for what I have, simply because I never came across a CooperLED/AtLite Inc. module insert inside of one. I want to try to be as authentic as possible, and I may consider to search for a first generation. It would be the ideal housing without no doubt. We'll see what happens. For now, to prevent additional cracks from forming, I might consider to find a less thicker gasket. Maybe a hardware store, like Lowe's, would carry something like that.
Thanks for the advice.
No problem!
Long ago, back on June 3rd, 2003, (Never forgot that day) I have seen in person, contractors from Welsbach Electric Corp., disassembling the older signals in Co-op City, in the Bronx, along almost all of Co-op City Boulevard, and all of Baychester Avenue, in my neighborhood. As far as that process went, the contractors had almost no problem replacing the signals in G.T.E. P-6's, since they were newer, the Winko-Matics, on the other hand, were much harder to replace, because of more ancient equipment inside.
The vehicular signals took quite a while to be replaced, as expected, but the pedestrian signals were another story, altogether! I saw one contractor on Co-op City Boulevard & Rombouts Avenue, actually take a hammer to a WALK/DONT WALK lens stuck in a door frame on a Winko-Matic ped, because the rubber gasket was fused together with the door, and he couldn't get it out by hand! Needless to say, he succeeded, but not without breaking the glass lens!
The bucket truck that did all the work was loaded with boxes of AtLite LED lenses & vehicular signals, as well as TONS of lenses, reflectors & visors already removed! I was shocked and amazed at the same time, but I did not think fast enough to ask for a lens, and/or a visor! Eventually I got one of each, later in the year! I was too shell-shocked by the replacement process!
As far as new installations, there was one non-descript intersection, that had all LED signals installed in 2003, BEFORE the contractors got that far north in the Bronx to replace the others, it was right next to the Bruckner Expressway. All G.T.E. P-6's, all LED's.
By the way, Steven, if you ever pass through Manhattan, try to pass by Madison Avenue & 49th Street. On the northeast corner, there was a Winko-Matic ped signal with an AtLite LED lens that was installed, but had the box grid visor still there. The AtLite lens has since been replaced with a GE GT1 countdown timer, but the visor remains there!
Very odd, indeed!
Congrats once again, on your acquisition!
And if the 'mini club' you're thinking of is those of us that happen to have a LED ped insert in our collections (?) WELCOME! 
By now it's been dark outside for a few hrs, so I suppose you've already discovered how insanely BRIGHT the things tend to be, when they're captured from the wild for 'inside duty'...? 
