A newer kind

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A newer kind

Postby steven1981 on Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:17 pm

My recent acquisition is not exactly a vintage street sign, but the current version of the vinyl aluminum street sign that is in use in the city of New York. Below, is a picture of it.

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This street sign was in use somewhere in Queens, N.Y., and the sign is perhaps less than two years old (though it has some wear and tear here and there). Because I do not know its complete history, what I know is that the seller acquired it from a man at a flea market, in which he had some other street signs from New York City for sale as well. In any case, this is a very nice find to me, since it is now interesting to compare this with the other street signs that I own in my possession and establish an evolution in New York City signage.

For those of you that may not know, the current street sign in use in the city uses lowercase letters, and the beginning of each name has only one uppercase letter, which is true for the common names of streets there, like avenue and boulevard. Prior to this street sign's introduction a handful of years ago, previous street signs used uppercase letters for many years.

I should receive this street sign within a couple of days, and I'll post some additional pictures once I receive it at my doorstep.
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Re: A newer kind

Postby steven1981 on Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:46 pm

The street sign arrived at my doorstep this afternoon, and its condition is really nice, since it is perhaps less than four years old. Has some wear and tear in certain spots, though. Below, are two pictures of both of its side. The street sign also has its original sign bracket as you could see, and it will remain attached to it.

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Unlike other vinyl aluminum street signs in New York City, the pattern of the reflective material on the street sign here is different and rather coarse. Below, is a close-up of this unique pattern.

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Though not a complete set of every kind of vinyl aluminum that was (or is currently) in use in New York City, the picture below provides a general idea of an evolution of this particular kind since its debut in the city around 1964 or so. From bottom to top, are the earliest versions, which are known as "color-coded" street signs, while the universal green on white appeared in the 1980s. The use of capital letters was still in use (as evident in "150 RD"), while the current version mainly uses lowercase letters; however, the beginning of each name of a street starts with only one capital letter.

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Re: A newer kind

Postby RunsWithCrouse-Hinds on Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:10 am

Very cool, Steven! I definitely like those color coded signs, but you've got quite the set growing! Now you just have to start getting pre-1960s signs...
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Re: A newer kind

Postby steven1981 on Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:18 pm

RunsWithCrouse-Hinds wrote:Very cool, Steven! I definitely like those color coded signs, but you've got quite the set growing! Now you just have to start getting pre-1960s signs...


Thanks, Dan. The "color-coded" vinyl aluminum street signs are definitely unique in their own way, and it would have been nice if the city had continued to use them after the 1970s.

Though I have collected most of the well-known street signs that were in use throughout New York City in the 20th century, there are some that I have yet to collect. The new vinyl aluminum street sign is my only one from there that is the youngest. Aside from the name, I thought it was nice to compare this current version with the others. Just to show somewhat of an evolution.

For now, I'll still hunt for vintage street signs from New York City, but I may consider to get some fairly modern ones in the future.
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Re: A newer kind

Postby mhv9218 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:37 am

Congratulations on your purchase! I'm fairly sure I saw the same sign up for sale on eBay a few months ago, and it looked like an excellent specimen. Very rare to purchase a street sign so recently installed, so luckily you'll be able to keep it in very good condition. I wonder what caused the DOT to remove the sign, bracket and all.
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Re: A newer kind

Postby steven1981 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:56 pm

The street signs of today in New York City lack the noticeable white lines, in which were once located on the top and bottom. A barely visible white line is present, while the rest is green. Just an interesting observation to point out. For many years, thick lines (or borders) were used for street signs in New York City, and I have to admit that the new version N.Y.C.D.O.T. introduced recently is a little hard to accept.

Not my picture, but below is an example of a new pair from the Bronx in New York City.

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The use of accents here is also interesting.
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Re: A newer kind

Postby RYGDWW on Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:06 pm

Has NYCDOT gone to Clearview font on its street name signs?
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Re: A newer kind

Postby steven1981 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:55 pm

RYGDWW wrote:Has NYCDOT gone to Clearview font on its street name signs?


D.O.T. first began to use it a few years ago. I once heard from an online news source (perhaps WABC channel 7 in New York) that D.O.T. expects to complete the conversion of its original font to what is in use now by around 2020. This is understandable, since there are many that have been yet to be removed from service.


The larger one that is normally suspended from the mast-arm/guy wire set-up in New York City uses the gothic style, but I'd like to imagine that new ones that are installed nowadays use the current font that the smaller ones use.
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