Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

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Re: Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

Postby B 67 on Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:43 am

LarryC39 wrote:Darren, Have any newer AWA signals? They're interesting, same shape as the Plessy body but sectional with flat end plates and tie rods. I think the black-yellow-black scheme was used in the UK for a period as well, although I've never seen them use anything but the crosshatch lenses in their signals.


Yes, I've got one of the later AWA lanterns.

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Plastic lenses though. None of my signals have the earlier crosshatch lenses, and that means I don't have a red command lens. I guess I just have to be patient. They rarely turn up down under. Of course they're the same as the pics above. Fortunately the large bead glass lenses look pretty impressive, and I have three "Plesseys" with those.
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Re: Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

Postby SignalLab on Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:37 pm

Very Nice restore Darren! I cant wait to see the other signal done in the Black, Yellow, Black scheme :thumbsup:
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Re: Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

Postby B 67 on Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:16 am

Well, after eluding me for so long, I've finally managed to obtain two STOP command lenses in one hit - along with some other very unusual ones for Australia. I was offered some lenses by someone in Melbourne who'd found me online. He obtained them along with a copper and brass traffic light he got from a scrapyard. They'd been brought in by an old guy who had worked with VicRoads in the past. Would be good to be able to get in touch with him and know the story behind some of the lenses.

Anyway, here's some of what I got.

http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/429875_10150596661782286_657347285_9253989_798809448_n.jpg
STOP lens with fine crosshatching. Appears to be the same as used on the British Plessey tin signals. I note that there's no maker's name on it. Perhaps someone can tell me who actually made these? I also have an amber one.

http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/423330_10150596661227286_657347285_9253984_875711298_n.jpg
Rear of same lens. Lettering embossed on the inside.

http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/422478_10150596661552286_657347285_9253988_280634568_n.jpg
Nice close-up. :)

The other command lens is a different style. Lettering embossed on the outside face. Fresnell type.
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/418371_10150596662007286_657347285_9253991_1875529725_n.jpg

I also have two matching amber ones - At least these are marked with the makers name.
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/425875_10150596663312286_657347285_9254010_1404045237_n.jpg

Unfortunately, no greens. I'll probably use some of these in my two yet to be restored AWA / Plessey tin signals. :drool:

Also in the lens lot I got was an amber Corning type E. Very similar to my AWA lenses earlier in this thread. Main difference I see is that the beading is not as 'crisp' as the AWA ones.
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/422149_10150596660547286_657347285_9253976_452441391_n.jpg

Australian Eagle "Bliss" lens in deep red.
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/426812_10150596663877286_657347285_9254019_1136726324_n.jpg

Similar lens in bright red.
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/431528_10150596664072286_657347285_9254022_1536804969_n.jpg

This one is an oddity to me. It's an Eagle "Bliss" lens, but as you can see, it has no diffuser pattern at all. I've seen similar on LED signals, but this obviously pre-dates LED traffic lights - or does it? Anyone know what these were for?
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419835_10150596664332286_657347285_9254027_787300193_n.jpg

A similar lens in green, but with the embossed walking man symbol.
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419409_10150596689222286_657347285_9254114_439645205_n.jpg

http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/429704_10150596689072286_657347285_9254113_2116334025_n.jpg

Here's something I've never seen in Australia before. It's a 3M high visibility lens. I have a red, amber and green.
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/422646_10150596664417286_657347285_9254029_116120571_n.jpg

http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/420792_10150596664547286_657347285_9254031_275566254_n.jpg

http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/431367_10150596665547286_657347285_9254046_1843236485_n.jpg

All in all, a pretty good haul considering how rarely this sort of stuff appears down under.

Now to work out how I'm going to use them all. :)
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Re: Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

Postby Crunge98 on Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:45 am

Wow!!! :drool:
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Re: Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

Postby traffic-light-man on Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:15 pm

Great haul there! :cool:

The cross-hatch STOP is indeed the same at the British one. The Fresnel lens is from an SGE style head, which were also found in Australia from pictures I've seen around the internet.

The non-beaded lenses you have - I'd assume these were for masking (hence the green man one), so no need for the beading perhaps. Haven't got a clue why there's no symbol embossed on the red though!
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Re: Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

Postby B 67 on Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:16 am

Thanks Simon,

I suspected the Fresnel was from a GE signal. I have seen photos of them in Australia, but they seem to have been pretty rare here in Victoria. Never seen photos of them here, but I have had a signal from the 60s or 70s described to me at a location that I recall seeing very old signals at, as a child. So there was at least one set in this state. I'm aware of them being used in Tasmania and South Australia. In fact some are still in use in SA, albeit as alternating flashing lights (wig-wags) at school crossings.

I've also seen these same lenses in use in Parco pedestrian wig-wag lanterns. ie.

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Regarding those non-beaded lenses, although I can see that the green one could easily have the rear blacked out with paint around the walking man symbol, I'd still expect to see some sort of beading or diffuser. Hmmm! And thinking about that I've remembered that I have a ped signal which actually has small diffuser panels directly behind the red and green man symbols - even though the lenses are beaded. Perhaps there was a stage of development of these lanterns that I hadn't previously noticed. The red lens may have had masking behind it, as it normal with incandescent and halogen installations.

I really suspect that these lenses were part of some samples and trials to determine which type of lens and / or masking was going to be selected as the standard when it was decided to phase out text indications.
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Re: Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

Postby SirMarbelot on Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:27 am

Beautiful signals, Darren...this thread is a treat! :good:
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Re: Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

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Re: Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

Postby thetrafficlightman on Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:10 pm

nicely done Darren :thumbsup:
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Re: Australian AWA / Plessey restoration

Postby B 67 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:43 am

Looks like I will have to repost the image links. I didn't realise way back when I did them that facebook change the URL now and then, presumably to prevent photos being used on other sites for ever. :grin:
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